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“Computer Can’t See BT Home Hub” – Updated.

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Preamble

Most routers connect to the internet on one side, and to the computer by means of the IEEE ethernet port via a cat 5 cable. The router may connect the same way to other devices also possibly; such as other computer(s) maybe, and/or a NAS server perhaps. This is known as a LAN (Local Area Network).

To set up a network it’s not just a simple matter of connecting up and everything works hunky-dory though: The network settings have to be correct inside each device in order that it knows where everything else is. With Windows XP Microsoft have simplified this operation with the Network Setup Wizard, or "NetSetWiz" as I refer to it. Without going into all the complicated technical details, you run the NetSetWiz on all computers and other devices using Windows, after having correctly connected up your network, and it sets up each device to interact with the other devices running Windows.

Even though the NetSetWiz didn’t appear until XP was released; it’ll work on pretty much any version of Windows in use today. Microsoft have done a fairly good job as regards this wizard with backwards compatibility.

Inevitably, though, there are times when things break down, and it doesn’t seem to work quite as it should.

Even when using just a single router with a single computer, which doesn’t usually require any assistance from the NetSetWiz, there can be communication problems occurring between router and computer.

I’m writing this article mainly because I notice that I’m getting a larger than usual number of visitors who’ve been searching Google with a term similar to "BT Home Hub doesn’t connect with computer" or "Computer can’t see BT Home Hub". I have quite a few references to the BT Home Hub on this blog, which is why Google refers it to the visitors; but not a lot if anything as regards troubleshooting.

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Guts

So you’ve connected the BT Home Hub as BT suggest: Filter at or near the BT socket with telephone and computer connections running from it; the cable connected from the filter to your BT Home Hub. The power adapter plugged in to a live 13 Amp socket, and the low-voltage output lead connected to the power input of your Home Hub.

(*Note: The recent BT Home Hubs; 2.0 and above, require a working voltage of 15 Volts. The older BT Home Hubs, before 2.0 require a working voltage of 9 Volts: Therefore if you’re replacing an old Home Hub with a new 2.0 or greater, you would probably have problems with it, if it works at all, if you don’t use the power adapter supplied with it and use the old one instead. (I don’t advise using the new adapter with an old Home Hub; although it may or may not work as a temporary measure. (Then again it might damage the old Home Hub due to over-voltage – I don’t know and I don’t intend to experiment in this area.)))

You power everything up and – No internet connection.

First check that the top three lights on the Hub are lit up and are blue. If not then refer to the documentation supplied with the Hub. If yes then check the cat 5 cable connection between the router and the computer. (Unless you’re using a wireless connection.)

If there’s nothing wrong with that, check that your ethernet adapter is working properly and has a driver or the correct driver installed. You can do this in Device Manager. If a yellow mark with an ! is attached to your ethernet adapter’s icon in Device Manager, I suggest you right-click on the icon in question and remove the device from the list. Following that click "Actions" at the top of the Device Manager page and "Scan for hardware changes". The computer will see the device and add it back to the list, then it’ll look for and install the driver again. When it has done this the ! should vanish and the ethernet controller should work correctly. If not then you have a problem with the driver that you are using and need to get a new driver from the motherboard’s manufacturer or the manufacturer of your ethernet controller.

If everything is OK so far but you still can’t connect to the internet then there may be a TCP/IP error in that your Home Hub has assigned your ethernet controller an invalid IP address. To solve this you can either reboot both the computer and the Home Hub, or to save rebooting the computer you could go to a command prompt and type in "ipconfig /flushDNS": (Note the space between ipconfig and /flushdns.) This will empty your DNS cache where the invalid IP address has been stored, and the Hub will hopefully assign a new, correct IP address when it reboots.

There was a typo in the above paragraph previous to 27th November 2008, for which I apologise.

Going this far should have sorted all but a tiny percentage of problems. if you’re still having problems I suggest that you refer to the documentation that was supplied with the Hume Hub, or phone BT themselves on 0800 800 150. Unfortunately their call-centre is in India, half of their representatives are totally computer-illiterate and are reading from a script, and a lot of them have such strong Indian accents that they’re rather hard to understand. Some of them also have no intelligence to speak of.

If you are replacing an old BT Home Hub with a new model 2.0 or greater then it should be possible to plug it straight in  to the existing connections as before, remembering to swap the old 9V power adapter for the new 15V power adapter.

It is quite possible to run your BT Home Hub without using any of BT’s software. I suggest that you don’t install the Norton Security Suite provided with the Home Hub as this is bloatware. Use something else instead with equivalent function. See this article on an alternative antivirus/antispyware solution.

 

 

I also suggest that you might like to not install the BT Broadband Desktop help client unless you are computer-illiterate: The reason being is that some antispyware vendors consider the BT Broadband Desktop Help client as spyware/malware, and the Home Hub will work perfectly well without it being installed. If you don’t know much or anything about computers, or are a technophobe, then I suggest that you do install the client.

The wireless connection manager software provided by BT is a waste of space IMO, and sometimes conflicts with the Windows equivalent – which is all you need. I suggest if you can that you totally disable the BT wireless connection manager and use the equivalent built into the operating system instead.

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Please comment on this article and give your views and suggestions.

Addendum

I’ve had a few enquiries about the BT Home Hub from Google that I feel I should just mention:

First: Should I leave my BT Home Hub switched on all the time?

Yes and no: I would suggest that you don’t leave it on 24/7 week in, week out. Give it a few hours’ break now and again, otherwise it gets funny at times. Other than that I’d say yes; use it to your heart’s content: If you want to go up and watch whatever on the computer in your bedroom then doze off and leave the Hub on all night why not? It doesn’t use much power, and if you’re worried about someone hacking your wireless while you sleep you could set it to switch wireless off at a certain time. Also it updates at night sometimes: Around 1AM time: Whatever you do; don’t switch it off while it’s updating or it’ll never work again. Read your handbook.

If you have questions about using certain services with it then you can use pretty much any service with it: DSL, TCP/IP, FTP, HTTP, Peer-to-peer, (Watch out though: I happen to know that BT have set up sensitive equipment, set up to record illegal file downloaders’ IPs; so if you do it via BT you’ll probably get caught. I realise that not all P-P involves illegal downloads; and that there’s also a highly ethical side to it: Just to let you know that you’re being watched by electronic eyes.) but you’ll need to set it properly in some cases: Refer to the handbook that was packed with it when it arrived.

If you have a question then why not scrawl it on the wall in the sidebar? It might as well be used.

 


…And I’ll add a little more to the above:-


Your BT Home hub doesn’t have to be connected to your computer by wires – You can connect wirelessly: How secure is this? The Home Hub 2.0 has a secure wireless connection using 256-bit encryption. (Older models use 128-bit encryption and less-secure wireless protocol by default. Those models require settings to be altered to enhance security. 2.0 upwards are inherantly more secure by default and require no setting to become so.) Connecting is a synch: First you’ll have to have either a wireless card fitted via a PCI slot inside your computer, or you can use an external USB wireless dongle.


You’ll also need your BT Home Hub’s wireless key; which is printed on a card that was delivered inside the Hub’s packaging with the rest of the paperwork. There is a space in the instruction booklet to write this into, which is useful if like me you lose the card.


I won’t go into graphic detail about the process. Simply either set up your wireless connection, via your computer’s internal wireless card if it has one, using the software built into the Windows operating system (XP or Vista.)(I don’t recommend using Windows 9x: It’s old, insecure, and problematic. If you are using Win 9x then get a better operating system.)(Linux and Mac users refer to your operating system’s documentation.) or plug your wireless USB dongle into a USB socket on your computer and set up the connection using the software built into the (Windows, Linux, Mac) operating system.

The BT Home Hub 2.0 has an internal antenna and will connect to your computer via a wireless connection within most properties. If your property is so big that it’s out of range then you can probably afford a second BT Home Hub anyway. If you can’t get a signal due to a blamk-spot then you’ll have to move your computer to a different location.

I’ll probably continue adding more to this article from time to time as I notice new searches coming in from Google. I can’t answer all of your queries based on this method; but I’ll endeavour to attend to the most frequent and numerous searches.

 


OK here’s a fairly simple one; but it was searched for on Google, and this person who searched came here:


The BT Home Hub 2.0 has 4 ethernet sockets at the back. Your computer is probably connected to one of them, unless you’re using a wireless connection.


If you want to use another computer with the Home Hub, you connect it to one of the other ethernet sockets via a patch lead/cat 5 cable, unless you’re using a wireless connection with that computer; in which case see above.


If you must install BT’s software on it then do so; although once again I do suggest that you use an alternative antivirus than the Norton Security Suite that they provide: Norton is what is known as bloatware: In other words it’s a massive program that takes up too many system resources and wastes a lot of your computer’s power. There is a paid antivirus solution advertised on this blog. Alternatively if you’d prefer a free antivirus program then I suggest downloading AVG, Avira, or Avast. I haven’t bothered to link those AFAIK, so you’ll have to look them up via Google.


-Having said that; unless you are a geek who knows a bit about how the Home Hub works, I’d suggest that you use the setup CD initially, and that you uninstall the crapware and bloatware such as Norton afterwards: Reason being that the install CD provided by BT has some rather useful software on it that you don’t actually know about as such unless you browse the CD/DVD, whatever, and have knowledge of file types and functions. It acquaints your Home Hub and your computer shall we say, to cut a long story short.

A couple more points I should mention:

The Home Hub doesn’t show up in Device Manager: It’s not a part of your computer as such; it doesn’t need your processor or BIOS to help it operate. It’s sole function is as a signal-source delivering bandwidth in ethernet mode; TCP-IP and various protocols, to your computer. It doesn’t show up in Device manager any more than your ISP shows up in Device Manager.

You can, though, get it to show up in My Network Places in XP. (I haven’t tried this or similar in Vista so you can do your own experiments with that.) Call up the My Network Places folder and click on “Show Icons for Networked UPnP devices”. After a few seconds an icon of a screen with a globe behind it should appear as your Home Hub icon. This is a rather useful icon to keep there actually, as it saves you from having to type the Hub’s IP address into the command-line whenever you need to access the Hub’s GUI – So rather than opening a command-line and typing 192.168.1.250, (I think is the default) you just click on the icon instead.

Another thing: The Bt Home Hub has a USB socket on the back as well as 4 ethernet ports. This is meant to be for networking USB drives and the like to your Hub. I’ve so far been unable to do that; although I’m sure it’s possible by means of some obscure method. I have, however, connected a computer up to it by installing a remote NDIS device (software) into the computer and connecting to the internet via USB to the Hub’s USB socket. For now that’s all I can tell you about that.


I noticed an enquiry on Statpress from a Google search: “Voltage home hub charges handset at.” -Or something similar. I simply had to find out: That had made me curious:

I pulled my digital multimeter from the toolbox and read almost exactly 5 Volts. – So if anyone else is curious I’ve saved you the trouble. – At least, that’s the voltage used to charge the handset on the Home Hub 2.0. I would imagine that it would be the same with earlier models, but I can’t be sure: Neither can I be bothered to set one up to test it right now, so if you have an earlier model and want to know then you’ll have to do your own tests. It’s a regulated DC voltage, so set your meter accordingly.


14.01.2009 Interestingly I very recently had an issue that I at first thought could have been presumed by some to be related to the Home Hub. In reality turned out to be nothing to do with it:


I was just about to shut down my system, (Consisting of 2 computers.) and head off in the direction of bed; when suddenly a balloon appeared on the screen of the older comp saying that the main connection to the internet via the LAN had failed.


The first thing I did was to check the other computer; which was still connected; therefore I looked for problems between the Home Hub and the computer: i checked and replaced the patch cable, but still no joy. I tried plugging into a different outlet on the hub, even rebooting the hub. Nothing.


It appeared to be something to do with the computer itself: I checked the network interface card (NIC) onboard the motherboard. Device Manager reported that it was working properly, so I turned to BT Broadband Desktop Help, which amazingly I’d installed a few hours earlier.


Bt Broadband Desktop Help couldn’t find a connection, and at first blamed my computer; saying that it had an invalid IP address. I flushed the DNS buffers and tried again. This time the BT Broadband Desktop Help (BBDH) software blamed the Home Hub…But the Home Hub was working as the other computer was getting a connection via it. I checked again: BBDH told me to contact my network administrator or BT: No. – I didn’t want to be flogged a new Home Hub by a pre-programmed Indian, who, if they could understand English, certainly wasn’t listening to a word I was saying. Rather, in true geek fashion, I’d figure it out myself.


In short; by 6AM, I’d run a number of tests and completed my analysis. No definite conclusion had been reached; but logically the facts were pointing to a non-functioning NIC. Device Manager was telling me that it was working; but the connection was made on the other comp when I connected the patch-lead to it, and the computer in question appeared to be working normally otherwise.


I uninstalled the NIC driver in Device Manager and reinstalled it from the motherboard’s CD. I rebooted the computer and it connected as normal.


Had that happened to a standard run-of-the-mill computer-user, they’d have probably been compelled to buy a new Home Hub from BT, which wouldn’t have solved the problem; and eventually they’d have had to have called a geek in to fix it: Estimated cost = somewhere between £100 and £250 in total.


Don’t always believe your eyes when it comes to computers: Software can lie. – Because it’s not clever enough to work out the real problem.

Remember: BT are a sales-oriented organisation: They want your money first and foremost. After you’ve renewed all your equipment at your cost and their profit they’ll help you if the problem continues, because you’ve effetively paid for their help.


The Indian staff aren’t geeks. In fact it’s probably the case with many of them that the only computer that they’ve ever touched is the one on their desk in the call-centre.


I’m not trying to be racist here or anywhere else: I have nothing against Indians whatsoever. My gripe is with BT themselves. I continue to use BT as my ISP because they have more redeeming qualities than malefic qualities. I’d go on about other companies if I had the experience of them that I have with BT: However I don’t have that experience with any other companies.


Whatever assistance is available; there’s nothing better than knowing it yourself at the end of the day.

Me? I’m still learning and will never stop learning. I’ll never know it all, and neither will anyone else. That doesn’t stop me from learning as much as I can though. Hopefully I can share some of that knowledge with you through this medium.


I’m closing this article now: I won’t be adding any more to it from this point forward, other than correcting any errors, should there be any.


Do feel free to comment on this and any other article: Share your opinions and knowledge with me and with the other readers too.

Knowledge is power: Share your knowledge and more knowledge will come to you by default.

 

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